Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Hoax of Love & Peace in Bible

“Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.” 
(Matthew 10:34-39)

I am come to send fire on Earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 
(Luke 12:49-53)

“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.”
 (Luke 14:26)


But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
(Luke 22:36) 



SUMMARY

  •  OT says (in war) kill every one(including children and women) save only virgins girls(for your feast). 
  • Kill those who follow other religion.
  • Destroy their cities.
Jesus (pbuh) said (as per Bible):
  • I have come to bring fire on earth.
  • I have come not for peace but for a sword.
  • I have come to divide, even the family members.
  • Those who don't have sword should sell their coat and buy one.
  • Hatred is the precondition for becoming my disciple.

Tuesday, June 26, 2012

History of Trinity Taken from wiki ... read and Judge yourself!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity#History

Pope Clement I prays to the Trinity, in a typical post-Renaissance depiction by Gianbattista Tiepolo.
Main article: Trinity of the Church Fathers

The first of the early church fathers recorded as using the word Trinity was Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century. He defines the Trinity as God, His Word (Logos) and His Wisdom (Sophia)[66] in the context of a discussion of the first three days of creation. The first defence of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early third century by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended the Trinitarian theology against the "Praxean" heresy.[67]

Although there is much debate as to whether the beliefs of the Apostles were merely articulated and explained in the Trinitarian Creeds,[68] or were corrupted and replaced with new beliefs,[69][70] all scholars recognize that the Creeds themselves were created in reaction to disagreements over the nature of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These controversies, however, were great and many, and took some centuries to be resolved.

Of these controversies, the most significant developments were articulated in the first four centuries by the Church Fathers[68] in reaction to Adoptionism, Sabellianism, and Arianism. Adoptionism was the belief that Jesus was an ordinary man, born of Joseph and Mary, who became the Christ and Son of God at his baptism. In 269, the Synods of Antioch condemned Paul of Samosata for his Adoptionist theology, and also condemned the term "homoousios" in the sense he used it.[71]

Sabellianism taught that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are aspects of how humanity has interacted with or experienced God. In the role of the Father, God is the provider and creator of all. In the role of the Son, God is manifested in the flesh as a human to bring about the salvation of mankind. In the role of the Holy Spirit, God manifests himself from heaven through his actions on the earth and within the lives of Christians. This view was rejected as heresy by the Ecumenical Councils.[which?]

Arianism, which was coming into prominence during the 4th century along with Trinitarianism, taught that the Father came before the Son, and that the Son was a distinct being from the Holy Spirit. In 325, the Council of Nicaea adopted a term for the relationship between the Father and the Son that from then on was seen as the hallmark of orthodoxy; it declared that the Son is "of the same being" (ὁμοούσιος) as the Father. This was further developed into the formula "three persons, one being".

Saint Athanasius, who was a participant in the Council, stated that the bishops were forced to use this terminology, which is not found in Scripture, because the Biblical phrases that they would have preferred to use were claimed by the Arians to be capable of being interpreted in what the bishops considered to be a heretical sense.[72] They therefore "commandeered the non-scriptural[73] term homoousios ('of the same being') to safeguard the essential relation of the Son to the Father that had been denied by Arius."[74]

Moreover, the meanings of "ousia" and "hypostasis" overlapped then, so that the latter term for some meant essence and for others person. Athanasius of Alexandria (293–373) helped to clarify the terms.[75]

The Confession of the Council of Nicaea said little about the Holy Spirit.[76] The doctrine of the divinity and personality of the Holy Spirit was developed by Athanasius in the last decades of his life.[77] He defended and refined the Nicene formula.[76] By the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine had reached substantially its current form.[76]

The Ante-Nicene Fathers, although likely foreign to the specifics of Trinitarian theology because they were not defined until the 4th century, nevertheless affirmed Christ's deity and referenced "Father, Son and Holy Spirit". Trinitarians view these as elements of the codified doctrine.[78]

By the end of the 4th century, as a result of controversies concerning the proper sense in which to apply to God, Christ and the Holy Spirit terms such as "person", "nature", "essence", and "substance", the doctrine of the Trinity took the form that has since been maintained in all the historic confessions of Christianity.[20][18][79][80]

HOW BIBLE EXPLAINS 3 = 1 !




✔ Father Quality 

No one knows, however, when that day or hour will come—neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son; only the Father knows.(Mark 13: 32)



✔ Son Quality 

My Father, who gave them to me, is greater than all.

(John 10: 29)



I can of my own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who has sent me. (John 5: 30)



✔ Holy Ghost Quality 

Anyone who says something against the Son of man can be forgiven, but whoever says something against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven- now or ever. (Matthew 12: 32)



Is this 3 in One nature ???

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History of trinity



• AD 50- About this time the Gospels recorded, "I ascend unto my Father and your Father and to my God and to your God."

• AD 57 - About this time Paul wrote, "There is no other God but One. To us there is but One God and Father and Son, Jesus Christ."

• AD 96 - About this time Clement wrote, "Christ was sent by God and the Apostles were sent by Christ."

• AD 120 - The Apostle's creed begins to be known to the Church. It says, "I believe in God, the Father Almighty."

• AD 150 - Justin Martyr about this time began with platonic philosophy to corrupt Christian simplicity.

• AD 170 - The word "Trias" first occurs in Christian literature.

• AD 200 - The word "Trinitas" is first used by Tertullian.

• AD 230 - Origen writes against prayers being offered to Christ.

• AD 260 - Sabellius taught that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three names for the same God.

• AD 300 - No Trinitarian form of prayer is yet known to the Church.

• AD 310 - Lactanius write that "Christ never called himself God!"

• AD 320 - Eusebius writes: "Christ teaches us to call his Father, the True God, and to worship Him."

• AD 325 - The Council of Nicea agrees to call Christ God of God, very God of very God. However two opposing groups, the Trinitarians and the Unitarians, came into existence.

• AD 350 - Great conflicts in the Church about the doctrine of Trinity.

• AD 370 - The doxology, "Glory be to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost" composed and objected to as a novelty.

• AD 381 - The Council of Constantinople gives the finishing touch to the doctrine of "three Persons in One God".

• AD 383 - The Emperor Theodosius threatened to punish all who would not believe in and worship the Trinity.

Therefore, the doctrine of the Trinity, imposed by imperial decree, did not become Christian dogma until nearly four centuries after the birth of Jesus. Orthodoxy was then established by force. This leads us to the conclusion that the concept of the Trinity was created basically to confuse a common person to the extent that he or she ends up in blind faith and gives up rational thinking. It blocks the thinking power of the human brain.


Trinity is neither SCRIPTURAL nor RATIONAL.Just think if it is scriptural then why great prophets like abraham isaac moses david isaiah jermiah did not know about trinity? they never preached it.

Trinity

For Trinity Believers ? ☛ Here are some easy Questions




1. Then why is "God head of Christ just as Christ is head of man"?
☛ (1 Cor. 11:3) 

2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a separate person from God?
☛ (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.) 

3. Then how can Jesus have a God? Could Almighty God have a God?
☛ (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12) 

4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and is part of Creation?
☛ (Col. 1:15) 

5. Then why does Rev. 3:14 say that Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God"? 
☛ (Rev. 3:14)

6. Then why is he subject to GOD, like we're subject to him?
☛ (1 Cor. 15:27, 28; Eph. 1:17) 

7. Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' ORIGIN was “from early times”? 

8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows?
☛ (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45) 

9. Then why is Jesus still subject to God when he is as high as he will ever be?
☛ (1 Cor. 15:27, 28)

10. Then why does Proverbs 8:22-31 show that the Messiah was CREATED / PRODUCED by God? 

11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself?
☛ (1 Cor. 15:27, Eph. 1:17, 22) 

12. Then why would he have to be given any power and authority?
☛ (Mt. 28:18; 11:27; Jn. 5:22; 17:2; 3:35; 2 Pet. 1:17) 

13. Then why did he have to learn anything?
☛ (Heb. 5:8; John 5:19; 8:28) 

14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit?
☛ (Mt. 12:31,32; Luke 12:10) 

15. Then why did Jesus call the "Father...the only true God"?
☛ (John 17:3) 

16. Then why did he need to be saved?
☛ (Heb. 5:7; John 12:27) 

17. Then why did he have to be exalted to Leader and Savior?
☛ (Acts 5:31) 

18. Then how could he be exalted and given a higher name than he had?
☛ (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:2-4) 

19. Then why did he have to be given life in himself?
☛ (John 5:25,26) 

20. Then how can the Father be greater than him?
☛ (John 14:28) 

21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan when God cannot be tempted with evil?
☛ (James 1:13) 

22. Then why did he worship the Father?
☛ (John 4:22) 

23. Then why can he not do anything on his own?
☛ (John 5:19; 6:38) 

24. Then why would he pray to anybody?
☛ (Luke 22:44; John 17:1,2; Heb. 5:7) 

25. Then why does John 1:18 say that Jesus is God's "only BEGOTTEN Son"? ASV 

26. Then how can he be God's servant?
☛ (Acts 4:26,27,30) 

27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel?
☛ (Luke 22:43) 

28. Then how could he be a mediator between God and man?
☛ (1 Tim. 2:5) 

29. Then how could he be with God (ho theos)?
☛ (John 1:1) 

30. Then how can he be God's image?
☛ (Col. 1:15; Heb. 1:3) 

31. Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the Originator (ek)?
☛ (1 Cor. 8:6; John 1:1-3; Prov. 8:30; Heb. 2:10; Col. 1:15,16) 

32. Then why did Jesus say GOD was "good" in a way that Jesus was not?
☛ (Mark 10:18) 

33. Then why does he have an archangel's voice instead of God's voice?
☛ (1 Thess. 4:16) 

34. Then why is the only "worship" given to him the same given to humans?
☛ (Heb. 1:6, cf. Mt. 18:26; Rev. 3:9 - "Proskuneo") 

35. Then why do many who believe this rely on a few selected, so-called 'proof-texts' instead of the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible? 

36. Then how could he get commanded to do anything?
☛ (John 12:49; Deut. 18:18) 

37. Then why did Steven see two separate entities, GOD and Jesus, and not just one God or three persons?
☛ (Acts 7:55) 

38. Then how could he be seen at GOD's right hand?
☛ (Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Rom. 8:34) 

39. Then how could Jesus be exalted (not to become God Himself, but) to the position of the "right hand OF God"?
☛ (Acts 2:33) 

40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?
☛ (Rev.1:1) 

41. Then why is he called God's "begotten" Son before he came to earth?
☛ (John 3:16; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:9) 

42. Then how could he have a Father?
☛ (John 20:17) 

43. Then how could he come in flesh?
☛ (1 Kings 8:27; Acts 17:24,25) 

44. Then why did he not come in his own name?
☛ (John 5:41-44) 

45. Then why did Jesus "come down from heaven to do" God's will and not his own will?
☛ (Luke 22:42; John 6:38; John 5:30; John 8:42) 

46. Then how could he appear before GOD?
☛ (Heb. 9:24) 

47. Then how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die?
☛ (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26) 

48. Then why is it that God resurrected Jesus?
☛ (Acts 2:32) 

49. Then why can we see him if "no man has seen God at any time"?
☛ (John 1:18) 

50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father)?







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