Saturday, July 16, 2011

Lies Of Christian Missionaries

Lies Of  Christian Missionaries


Just few days back was answering to false claims of a Christian brother over FB suddenly he loses temper and tried to prove alleged errors in Qur'an, by posting false information .... exposed his lies on there .. Publishing the same here.


His Statement
“I know you know the koran but just to prove that you are a liar, I will give you proofs. Sura 18 The Cave Verse 84 and he followed a way until when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a black muddy spring and he found thereat a people.’ which tended to it. Surah 67.5 the stars are in the lowest heaven Surah 71 15-16 the sun and the moon are in the middle heaven (4), That makes the stars lower than the sun and the moon. Now I know why they have the star inside the crescent moon. Don't question anything Muhammed says or choose disbelief over faith. 2:108 . Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2 so this is the religion of peace????? Intermarriage is forbidden. 2:221 Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. 3:28 Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. 3:73 The hypocrites refuse to die for Allah and Muhammad. 4:66 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89 You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151 enough proof. or do you want some more.


Brother your statement is full of lies ....... as explained below..... but i don’t doubt your intention.

I wish if u start following these verses.....ur problem will be solved!!


Quran 49:6
O  you  who  have believed,  if  there  comes  to  you  a  disobedient  one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of  ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.



Anyways i am exposing your lies .....



Color code Used

Green - Your statement.
Violet - My Reply.
Red - From Quran.




“ Sura 18 The Cave Verse 84  and he followed a way until when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a black muddy spring and he found thereat a people.’ which tended to it.

EVEN YOUR REFERENCE IS WRONG  correct reference is  18:86
And the verse says  “It appears to Zulkarnain that the Sun sets in Murky water.”

(Suppose Mr A says  “You  believe in Trinity” ...... so did Mr A is believing in Trinity???
Obviously no, he is saying that you believe in Trinity!)

You are reading this in the same way same as u do with Bible .....Brother eastern languages use lot of metaphors and similes.

Just take your newspaper it states Sun sets at.... and Sun rises at.....   I hope you won’t consider it as a scientific mistake in news paper.......... This is how the expression is used Metaphorically!







Surah 67.5 the stars are in the lowest heaven”

67:55. And  We  have  certainly  beautified  the  nearest  heaven  with  lamps [i.e., stars] and have made [from] them what is thrown  at the devils and have prepared for them the punishment of  the Blaze.

 [Where it states stars are in lowest heaven?????]






“Surah 71 15-16 the sun and the moon are in the middle heaven (4), That makes the stars lower than the sun and the moon. Now I know why they have the star inside the crescent moon.”

71:15-16
15. Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in  layers. 16. And  made  the  moon  therein a  [reflected]  light  and  made  the  sun a burning lamp
.

[where it says sun n moon are in the middle of heaven, stars are lower than sun moon??????]

FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION CRESCENT HAS GOT NO VALUE IN ISLAM!!!





 
Don't question anything Muhammed says or choose disbelief over faith. 2:108 “.

OUT OF CONTEXT  .... Start reading from 2:107
107. Do  you  not  know  that  to  Allah  belongs  the  dominion  of  the  heavens  and  the  earth  and  [that]  you  have  not  besides  Allah  any protector or any helper?
108. Or do you intend to ask  your Messenger as Moses was asked  before?  And whoever exchanges faith for disbelief has certainly strayed from the soundness of the way.

(This says Only God is your Savior (same thing Bible says in Isaiah)......are you going to question again and again like that of Moses(as) people did)

Anyway your statement is correct up to large extent....... When we (Muslims) say we believe ..we mean it....we are not like Christians who say they believe in Jesus  (as) but are rejecting  his words and believing in heretic claims of Paul & Church.





Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

ONCE AGAIN OUT OF CONTEXT  START FROM VERSE 190 AND RE READ
.
190. Fight  in  the  way  of  Allah THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS .  Indeed, ALLAH DOES NOT LIKE TRANSGRESSORS .
191. And  kill them  wherever  you  overtake  them  and  expel  them  from  wherever  they  have  expelled you,  and  fitnah is worse  than  killing.   And  DO NOT FIGHT  them  at  al-Masjid  al-haram  UNTIL THEY FIGHT YOU there.  But if they fight you, then kill them.  Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
192. And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Even answer is given, Why permission for fighting was given.  (Because they were oppressed.)

22: 39. Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.


NOW READ THIS  (This is the General guideline of Islam regarding humanity.... what you have  mentioned is the guideline for battle field.)

5:32 Whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.
(no where it states Muslim only, mankind = entire humanity)


60:8  Allah  does  not  forbid  you  from  those  who  do  not  fight  you  because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from  being  righteous  toward  them  and  acting  justly  toward  them.  Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.





“so this is the religion of peace?????”


Read all again n now decide yourself !!!!

But i will prove  from Bible that Christianity isn’t as all these things are mentioned in Bible.

BIBLE (Book of Numbers) says kill all men, women(who is not virgin) and children's ... save only virgin girls for yourself!!
Bible{31:17} Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Bible{31:18} But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves
.
-:Motivating verses for crusaders:-

want more?????????






Intermarriage is forbidden. 2:221

Once again ......as usual ......ITS A LIE.

Marriage with Jews & Christian is permitted 5:5.
(we Muslim read Qur'an in full not in parts for those who do in parts there is a warning in 2:85...... in order to understand even you have to read from cover to cover)





‘Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. 3:28


Its Allies (protectors ) not Friend..... and for sure when ever we have the choice we should take believer as protector in preference to unbeliever.
3:28 Let not believers take disbelievers as allies [i.e., supporters or  protectors] rather than believers. 

Now read this
60:8 8. Allah  does  not  forbid  you  from  those  who  do  not  fight  you  because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from  being  righteous  toward  them  and  acting  justly  toward  them.  Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.






Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. 3:73 “


Once Again lie.....presented out of context.
Start reading from 3:72....Its talking about Hypocrites who said lets enter into religion(and show that we are very devout) n later we will leave the religion......... for sure this will shake the faith of others(Muslims)!!
now in 3:73 God says don’t believe in such persons.....except who are true believers.

This verse specifically talks about Hypocrites who were plotting against Muslims!!!






"The hypocrites refuse to die for Allah and Muhammad. 4:66 "

This verse tells about the characteristic of hypocrite,  read it properly
“If we had” .................. “they would not have done it”.... it just the characteristic.

(Where it says they refuse to???????????????????)

4:66. And  if  We  had  decreed  upon  them,  "Kill  yourselves"  or  "Leave your homes," they would not have done it, except for a  few of them.  But if they had done what they were instructed,  it would have been better for them and a firmer position [for  them in faith].





“Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89 “

As usual out of context and hiding next verse WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT to complete the statement.

88. What  is [the  matter]  with  you  [that  you  are]  two  groups  concerning  the  hypocrites, while  Allah  has  made  them  fall back  [into  error  and  disbelief]  for  what  they  earned. Do  you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray?  And he  whom Allah sends astray – never will you find for him a way  [of guidance].
89. They  wish  you  would  disbelieve  as  they  disbelieved  so  you  would be alike.  So do not take from among them allies until  they  emigrate  for  the  cause  of  Allah.   But  if  they  turn  away  [i.e., refuse], then seize them and kill them wherever you find  them and take not from among them any ally or helper,
90. Except  for those  who  take  refuge  with  a  people  between  yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you, their hearts  strained  at  [the  prospect  of]  fighting  you  or  fighting  their  own  people.   And  if  Allah  had  willed,  He  could  have  given them power over you, and they would have fought you.   So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you  and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them.
                                          
Verse 88 talks about hypocrites .........verse 89 talks about their wish that they wish even you (Muslims) would be like them in disbelief.

NOW FOR THOSE PEOPLE  IT WAS SAID.. DON’T TAKE THEM AS FRIEND (UNTIL THEY BELIEVE) ..BUT IF TURN AWAY AND FIGHT.....DON’T BE AFRAID N FIGHT WITH THEM.

BUT YOU HAVE MISSED THE IMP PART WHICH IS IN NEXT VERSE (89) N CLEARS UP ALL.
 
Don't fight with
1-Anyone who don’t want to fight(takes refuge).
2-Those with whom u have peace treaty.......(Muslim used to do peace treaty even more than 1400 years ago).
3-Those who refrain from harming you n lives peacefully with you.






“You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151 “

Yes any one who associates partner will go to hell forever same thing......read my earlier post on salvation as Per Jesus(as) ...not Paul....that too states the same.

(For Details Click    Salvation  Bible Vs Christianity)

  Interesting what you believe (Jesus as god & Son of God, Trinity, Salvation through Blood, Original Sin... blah blah) i have proved from your own bible that its false using Red letters (Jesus as  words), while you are giving references of black words (Of Paul)...... You are claiming to follow Jesus(as) but  in reality following Paul n heretic claims of Church........... So the word Hypocrite perfectly suits you!!!

We Muslims aren’t hypocrite we believe in everything that God &  Messenger(saw) said.




-Regards-
Mohd. Tariq

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